Torphichen Preceptory Addendum
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Ranulph and David Lindsay were probably related to each other
and, it has also been suggested, distantly related to the Welles family. From the work of Beryl Platt it is postulated that Lindsay in Scotland descended from the Flemish nobleman Gilbert de Ghent (Gant). Walter de Ghent, son of Gilbert de Ghent, is said to have been Walter de Lindsay in Scotland and de Ghent again when he returned to Lincolnshire. The son of Walter de Well(es), William de Welles, is said to have married Walter de Lindsay's (or de Ghent's) daughter. Gilbert's 5th son was called Ranulph - a family name (personal communication, Earl of Crawford and Balcarres). Beryl Platt's conclusions do not appear to have sound foundations, according to McAndrew (Double Tressure, 1993, 15, 43) and other respected researchers. Although it is possible that William de Welles married a daughter of Walter de Gant/Ghent there appears to be no documentation that indicates a Lincolnshire de Gant/Ghent changed his name to de Lindsay. For general details on Ghent / Lindsay see: Archives Ghent, Gant, Lindsay, Lindsey) Websites: (1) (2) (3) and details on Welle(s) see: Archive (1). ______________________________________________________ Although the pre 1300 Welles mentioned on these Torphichen pages are probably all English, it should be mentioned that there are also the 'Lands of Welles' also known as Easter Skraisburgh (Scraisburgh - by Jedburgh) NAS GD40/1/346. Gary Harding also sent this reference:
Revenue of the Scottish Crown, 1681 by William Purves –
189, page 50 There appears to be no indication that the name Welles was taken from these lands but we would be interested to know if anyone has any further information. |